Fx! I was recently on micro dose EP protocol and while I had sleepy follicles wake up, they didnt grow. However, the study has two major shortcomings and for that reason most experts arent ready to concede that rates of gonadotropin over 300 IUs per day is harmful. And finally I triggered with Novarel. February 7 - lost our little twin, Baby B had no heartbeat at 20 weeks, June 8, 2011 - DD was born healthy and her twin brother was born to Heaven. EPP results: 17 retrieved, 13 mature, 8 fertilized with PICSI, 2 hatching blasts on day 6 have been biopised. My doc started me on estrogen patch, one patch changing every 3 days until my period for 5 days and I just took it off and will be takingClomiphene after a day of taking off the patch, then after a day start stim. On the other hand, if too much gonadotropin is taken, a woman is at higher risk of hyperstimulation, known as Ovarian Hyperstimulation Syndrome or OHSS. RE put me on Estrogen priming protocol, and I am on Lupron and Cetrotide as well.On Friday, (cycle day 6) the newer nurse thought she saw 11 follicles.. ranging from 5mm to 9mm.. now, Cycle day 9, the other nurse, who has been there forever, saw only 5 and she had a hard time locating my other ovary. As you can see in our summary below, there are multiple drugs that can perform these two functions the one thats chosen dictates the protocol strategy. Are they all the same thing? Find other members in this community to connect with. There is a ton of data out there for 'younger' women 35-42 with fertility issues but I'd like to be able to g, I was taking Estrace and Androderm patch when I went in for my base sonogram and they said I was already ovulating! I was at the max stim dose to get the response I did. My clinic doesn't like it. maternal age" i.e. TTC with DOR (Diminished Ovarian Reserve), the most helpful and trustworthy pregnancy and parenting information. Did not cover diagnostics like doppler test (40 copay but insurance might have covered this), communicable testing ($400 per person), and specialty meds . Still seems to have had plenty of effect though. Hello thanks for sharing. Estrogen priming also allows the patient and clinicians to schedule the ovarian stimulation cycle and the timing of egg retrieval. You can be assured it is a good protocol. Anyhoo, I am just curious whose done this and what the difference was in terms of their egg numbers and quality.especially if anyone used it for quality. Several functions may not work. They said that they look at FSH less now as they find it too unreliable. I also did estrogen priming with the mini. The educational health content on What To Expect is reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts to be up-to-date and in line with the latest evidence-based medical information and accepted health guidelines, including the medically reviewed What to Expect books by Heidi Murkoff. that cycled failed. They studied what happens when you replace gonadotropin with clomid (a cheaper, less potent alternative) for a few days before the retrieval. first u/s Nov 2nd, one little bean!!! my RE is going back to the drawing board for my final IVF. Though I had 4 or 5 follicles to begin with, only ended up with one. The dose of gonadotropin matters because, generally speaking, if too little is prescribed, too few eggs are retrieved, and IVF success rates go down. Cost: $1,000. Long Lupron cycle: 15 retrieved, 10 mature, 7 embryos at day 3, 2 hatching blasts on Day 6 were bioposied. This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282. 14 retrieved, 9 mature, 5 fertilized normally, 2 grew to the 2-cell stage then arrested, 3 did not grow beyond one cell. As a result, its hard to correct for confounders like the fact that harder cases may (or in our minds, probably) had been given more drug and so the underlying condition, rather than the dose taken, contributed to the lower rates of success. Looking for info/success stories with Estrogen priming protocol with DOR. Beta 1117 Dwarf Mr Snow, Fred's Tie Dye, Saucy Mary, Sweet Scarlet, Kangaroo Paw Green, Idaho Gem and Banana Toes are just a few of the varieties one gardener is growing in a 4x8 bed of "bulletproof" tomatoes. We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. I did estrogen and testosterone priming on my second ivf because I was oversuppressed during my first cycle. I then did 450 gonal-F and 150 menopur for 12 or 13 days, using ganirelix as well. However, weve yet to see a large, rigorous, prospective, randomized trial on the subject. Why so many days of esterace( 15-16 days before starting/adding promethium for 10 days) then the stim cycle, 3. As a result, the Antagonist strategy is generally preferred for women at especially high risk of developing OHSS, namely women with PCOS, younger women, women with high AMH or AFCs, African American women, and those who produced a high number of eggs in a recent cycle. Hey Michelle, I haven't forgotten about you. Heres an example from the same study. I hope a tweak of the protocol will help or maybe it was just an off cycle for me. FET April 2009 - cancelled, embryos did not survive thaw That matters because if ovulation occurs before the retrieval, eggs cant be retrieved and the cycle will be canceled. A flare cycle may involve OCP or estrogen-only pretreatment, but the key is that a GnRH agonist (Lupron, Suprefact, or Synarel) will be started at exactly the same time as the stimulating medication. I am interested in hearing from women who have never tried to get pregnant and therefore do not have any specific infertility issue per se, other than age. The data supporting the use of growth hormone in poor responders leading up to gonadotropin use is more convincing. He did say there are some studies that DHEA and CoQ10 could help, but the, Hi all. Most of the costs are for the ER visit, tests, and lab work from my night in the hospital and the weeks following. Thanks so much in advance! Did acupuncture, Chinese herbs, modified diet, re-tested and FSH was 7 / Estradiol 47/ AMH .4 You still may have a BFP, so let's wait to see before we say it didn't work!! . 45 and over - who are trying to get pregnant. But I will be asking the best hardcore questions I can come up with about EPP. How it works: It's a two cycle process. It is used on lowish amh patients and those who respond poorly to drugs which affect their lining. Confirms hormone levels are baseline and gets antral follicle count as a basis for cycle prognosis. [Dr. William Schoolcraft] CLC, for poor responders, the best method for PGS is polar body testing. I need to know if anyone has had a similar experience, but later got pregnant and where did you go. AMH 28. Slightly higher doses of Follistim and Menopur to try to get a few more eggs. I hope your's goes lots better than mine! Waiting for that call is sooo stressful! We are OOP as well. November 8 - we're having twins:) Wow!!! Surprise spontaneous just 7 months postpartum while still breastfeeding!!! Any 43+ Have Successful IVF with Own Egg? I will be doing an FET in March/April, I started taking 4mg of estrace on cd 21. There are 2 - 3 core protocols: the Long Agonist, Antagonist and Flare. With this you get results by day-3 and can transfer embryos at that time. During my IVF cycle (still in the middle of it), Dr. K's 21 day estrogen priming protocol with 300 iu menopur seemed to have done the trick with 29 follicles (19 of which were bigger). I felt icky too the first day of starting estrace but I think it's also because they put me on a zpac to kill any infections and that made me sick my fingers are crossed that your period doesn't come and you can start cycling. FSH 7.7 ( done 1 year ago ) First round , on bcp for 2.5 weeks. I also did human growth on 2 cycles and didn't help a bit. It is used for low/poor responders -- often women with high FSH and/or over 35 years of age. After seven long years consumed by infertility I am finally moving forward, wishing my son was with me, but grateful for the two children I have here with me. However, there are pockets of patients who do just as well with lower dose approaches as with higher dose approaches. Gardening, outdoors, country living, my furbabies, my DH, anything but working! I am on my 4th now. Anyone with very low AMH do the estrogen priming and have a good response? Mar 15, 2011 #2. Avery & Sydney born June 12/11 at 30w1d. Was wondering since your AMH was good and FSH, why did they recommend the Estrogen priming protocol for you? I then switched clinics. Also, your stims are actually a lot higher than most REs will do for DOR. As a result, most fertility doctors shoot to retrieve 15 to 20 mature eggs per cycle. So.. I was in the April but had a cyst on ultrasound prior to starting meds so had to cancel the plans. Below is a meta-analysis of 17 (relatively small) studies that, taken together, show the strategies have nearly identical pregnancy rates. . :) worked well for me. It will workjust have faith! Thanks so much! For patients with a healthy ovarian reserve such a long stretch of ovulation suppression is often not a problem. (This was to work with their schedule, because they are closed on the weekends.) Recent Topics The dr decided to put a halt to the process for that month. IVF #1, we did Follistim, Menopur, Cetrotide. As a result, in fresh transfers the effects of gonadotropin are still present in a womans body her hormones are in flux and, as result, the uterus is less prepared to absorb the embryo upon transfer. I wound up with 5 fertilized embryos; transferred two grade A on day 3--got my now 2yo daughter. This is done by administering estrogen, typically via an estrogen patch or an injection, sometimes along with additional Gonadotropin-releasing hormone. 2 expanded blasts on Day 6 were not biospied. :-/. For many gardeners, it starts with tomatoes. Collection was yesterday and they retrieved 9 eggs. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. Had my ER today - they got 15 eggs. I think if I hadn't EPP, I wouldn't have had to stim so high. Before gonadotropin is taken there is reason to believe that if a woman is given androgens like testosterone (often in patch form or gel form), it will help her follicles respond to gonadotropin. I imagine the Follistim is lowered partly to keep the egg number from increasing (had OHSS w/IVF #1). Cetrotide was added CD9. How many follicles were you usually starting with? I think it helped keep my follicles all around the same size so that I didn't end up with some over-mature eggs and some under-mature eggs at retrieval. Long time reader, first time poster. I also did ganirelix during this time. This drugs known as the trigger shot. Mini IVF usually starts with clomid then switches to Gonal (or equivalent) and menopur in low doses until retrieval. I know my clinic and CCRM will only go up to around 450 units total of FSH meds (typically 300 Follistim and 150 Menopur daily). 2nd IVF/ICSI age 42 : Menopur 425; 2 eggs; 2 fertislised; transfer day 5; BFN Estrogen priming is a protocol used during in vitro fertilization (IVF) to facilitate a more gradual and coordinated growth of follicles in the ovary in women with diminished ovarian reserve (DOR). I dont know much.But my RE will do EEP for my second cycle..I'm just reading alot on the net, http://estrogenprimingprotocol.blogspot.com/. Our first cycles sound pretty similar. 5-7 oz Orange, mid season). First round I had few follicles 10 and scattered growth after taking bcp before cycles for about 13 days; Tried epp round after that, and had more synchronized growth with same number of follicles. They suppress leading up to your cycle so that when you start the meds you get a group of follicles to grow together. I understand why they want to suppress ovulation but it just doesn't seem like a good idea in someone over 40? Best of luck to you. Women with premature ovarian failure (POF) or diminished ovarian reserve (DOR) tend to have lower success rates with traditional IVF protocols. (Not so) Short summary - DH and I have been ttc since May 2015, two early m/c. Below you can see that when investigators gave poor responders 450 IUs or 150 IUs per day, the groups had nearly identical success rates. I was on BCP for 15 years and when I went off them I never got my period. My second included BCP before stimulating and I didnt stimulate well. Initial was 12. So it's a low dose of Lupron, but not necessarily low doses of stims overall. 6 responded, 5 retrieved, 3 fertilized normally, put all 3 back in at 3dpt - I am currently 27 weeks with one baby girl. If ok, then start stimulation The many repeat bloodworks & ultrasoundsLast stimulation shot + triggerRetrievalSo I started my process in the mid-September and my retrieval happened in early NovemberAlso, I was on MicroFlare protocol, so I am not sure what other medications you might be taking. Implantation Calendar: What is Happening During the Two Week Wait. This clinic only biopsies hatching blasts. As we show in the example below, during every step of IVF a certain number of eggs or embryos are lost, especially in the middle part of the funnel (growing embryos that are chromosomally normal). Second, this study was only done in cycles using a fresh transfer. After 2 years, tons of tests and 5 IVF cycles, it still feels unreal.Estrogen Priming protocol does not have birth control pills. This hormone is injected by the patient and directly instigates the ovaries to grow more follicles. Estrogen Priming Protocol: For some women, especially for those who have diminished ovarian reserve, it becomes necessary to help the response to the Antagonist protocol. 3rd IVF age 42 : Short protocal Menopur 375; so far on Day 4 scan 2 focilles again and some very small ones It's a sort of "slow burn" methodology the hope being that they slow you way down and protect egg quality while allowing you to stim longer. But I also realize I'm not a dr and should probably listen to their advice! Omnitrope/HGH pricing and protocol question? I hav, My last ivf cycle was cancelled/converted to IUI due to being over suppressed by birth control pills. Patients using EPP exhibited similar clinical PRs (21.5% vs. 21.4%) and live birth rates (15.0% vs. 15.3%) per started cycle. I have hypothalamic anvolution, DH normal. These drugs perform the opposite duty of suppression. Interesting that they are only putting you on it for 7 days.. May I ask what your AMH was? Regular menstrual cycles between 21 and 40 days Presence of both ovaries Meets criteria for DOR by the recent ASRM/ACOG Committee Opinion antimllerian hormone (AMH) value less than 1 ng/mL antral follicle count less than 5-7 and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) greater than 10 IU/L or This drug works indirectly by prompting the brain to produce more gonadotropin to signal the ovaries to grow follicles -- so it's not directly stimulating the ovary. View Full Term. My friends did this estrogen priming protocol and highly recommend it and were successful. In that time a womans hormonal balance has been restored and so IVF cycles using a frozen transfer are more likely to work. Check out this video to learn more about the. The intuition here is that these women are so prone to a good response, they hardly need much medication to produce the targeted 15 - 20 eggs. IVF Compared To Other Fertility Treatments, The Steps and Decisions In The IVF Process, Pregnancy Testing, Early Pregnancy and Delivery, The Impact of Donor Eggs, Donor Sperm or A Gestational Surrogate, The Impact of A Patients Condition or Diagnosis, Fertilization With Conventional Insemination vs. ICSI, Which Patients Benefit From Which Approach, Growing Embryos To Cleavage or Blastocyst Stage, Exceptions Where Cleavage Stage Makes Sense, PGT-A and PGS Genetic Screening of Embryos, Benefits of PGT-A (or PGS) Genetic Testing, The Negatives of PGT-A (or PGS) Genetic Screening. The combination of drugs and their dosing is known as a protocol and while it may seem like there are a dizzying number of protocols, the reality is there are only a few core options. Will let you know how things go from here. We're not even 100% sure we are staying with my current clinic but I wanted to research ahead of time either way. Comparing the good cycle to the other 3, I see why. However, for poor responders many doctors worry such a long duration of suppression can hurt outcomes. Have questions about navigating your Inspire support community or need assistance from one of our Inspire Moderators? Sadly, both my hatching blasts were abnormal. So I think I was on estrogen for about a couple weeks then started stimming (antagonist protocol). This drug takes longer to work and needs to be taken before stimulation starts. Anyways, just wanted to mention that in case you want to ask your RE about it. Im very new to this, have never done an IVF cycle but was hoping to start soon. Doing mild IVF - and wondering how that is going to work as the test today was that i only had one follicle visible - Any idea what to expect? I did that back in the beginning of the year but I ovulated in my own and terrified it might happen again. Now this is a guesstimated number. This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our. I had 5 follicles but only one matured so I was converted to IUI which failed. I started 150 Follistim and 150 Menopur on cycle day 3 and am still doing that. Group Owners uphold the core values of the brand by reporting content that violates the community guidelines. After my labs on CD6 they kept 300 Gonal F but upped Menopur to 300. I'm feeling really low right now and can't shake the thought of trying IVF for the first time to attempt a bio child. After 5 days of estrogen priming Follitropin alpha (Gonal F, 600 IU/day, s.c.) is started. Similarly, when an investigator named Revelli decided to swap out a few days of gonadotropin for clomid in this poor responder population in Italy (and thereafter resumed gonadotropin at low levels), he saw similar rates of success to more conventional levels of gonadotropin use. I'd love to hear from women of "advanced (advanced !) However, that information will still be included in details such as numbers of replies. I did a low stim ivf (225 menopur & 100 mg clomid) with human growth hormone which is what my fertilty clinic does for women over 40 and poor responders. I asked my local RE about it, but she wasn't familiar enough with it to try. IVF#4 November 2009 - one embryo survived to day 3 transfer - BFN poor responders or women with PCOS). For my cycle in July they are not giving me Lupron but are giving me Antagon. Use of this site is subject to our terms of use and privacy policy. Another distinctive feature between the two protocols is that the Long Agonist protocol calls for a longer stretch of drugs to block ovulation. it's 1 week since last patch. Group Leaders communicate with staff moderators and escalate potential violations for review, but they dont moderate discussions. I am also preparing to do estrogen priming again. What To Do When PGT-A & Grading Results Conflict? Typically, you also add other stims once you start your cycle, too (Menopur, GonalF), so those could be in high doses. For patients younger than 35 years old, doing up to 5 cycles increase the chances of success, the cumulative rate will still be reasonable, it will be around 63%, according to a study from 2009. Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. Copyright 2023 The goal was to use the estrogen to prevent any dominant follicles from taking over again to allow follicles to grow evenly. I just had my ER last week: . BFP oct 16th!!! Do they use this protocol as sort of standard for someone who is starting? There are two downsides to this protocols: The long duration of injections (they start the previous cycle) and. 2 Girls!! FertilitySmarts is a part of Janalta Interactive. Sign up now for your monthly dose of fertility info, experiences, and insight. Or are there different levels of this? Take a look at the data below published on roughly 1,000 fresh transfers and 1,000 frozen transfers. The dose of gonadotropin is typically measured in International Units Per Day and ranges from 0 - 900 with most IVF patients receiving 250 - 450 IUs per day. Really hope the next cycle goes well for you! Had three chromosomal miscarriages last year, moved on to IVF with intention of genetic testing but had to cancel cycle a few days in, E2 never got above 36 while on max dose of 300 Gonol f and 300 Menopur. DS was born June 22nd, 2007!!!!! Trying concieve since 40 However, given some of the additional features for each protocol (for example, the duration of suppression), some patients might find one preferable to the others. Estrogen Priming is completely different, so therefore without birth control pill. Ganirelix is contraindicated in pregnancy. I am about to embark on my IVF#6 cycle (1st time at CCRM)- I've always done OCP/BCP before my IVF stim cycle(antagonist) and have produced between 15-19 eggs each time. Privacy Policy - Ugh, that made me feel like I was hit by a truck. DOR does suck, but you can still be successful! Hi @cmugnolo, you have a similar situation to mine perhaps. Im over 40 and did estrogen priming for a bunch of cycles and a Lupron stop. The stim phase was just like a usual antagonist cycle. From what I've seen on the boards, ladies get a higher number and higher quality. Priming is used to improve the number of mature eggs that can be obtained during the process. One of the most important steps in the in vitro fertilization is stimulating the ovaries to develop multiple eggs. I am only 28 with normal amh/fsh levels so we were pretty shocked and upset when we only had a couple embryos on day 3 and then nothing to freeze. They put me on birth control pills for a month and are skipping the early stage Estrace this time around. In my opinion, it's good to be at a place that uses it a lot. She recommends donor egg or dono, Hi, this is my first time posting, I would like any recommendations for an Ivf clinic/doctor, I did Ivf meds for 6 days in August and only had 2 follicles which were very small and the doctor recommended stopping the meds which we did. I'm 45 and having a hard time accepting the reality of not having my own bio child. Lets start with how much gonadotropin to take. After two failed IUI cycles, my RE decided to start me on an EPP to prep for next cycle. 14 retrieved, 9 mature, 5 fertilized normally, 2 grew to the 2-cell stage then arrested, 3 did not grow beyond one cell. Had three chromosomal miscarriages last year, moved on to IVF with intention of genetic testing but had to cancel cycle a few days in, E2 never got above 36 while on max dose of 300 Gonol f and 300 Menopur. 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